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Dehommais et Germain violin

May 11, 2017, 4:40 PM · Good evening everyone. I just started teaching myself violin. I have been blindly buying all different 4/4 violins based on what country they were made because I wanted one with great tone. Well this is my 8th violin and it sounds great! What I found interesting was the label. When blown up it looks like cross threaded paper. Also when I put an endoscope in on the belly it reads "regraduated by John Alekse Oaklandon IND 1944" and there is an "A" with a circle around it. My question is it a real Dehommais et Germain violin" and is it worth anything? Link below to photos. Thanks in advance for looking.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/150595751@N02/shares/6101t7

Replies (14)

May 11, 2017, 5:45 PM · The label is a fake made on some kind of copy machine, see the dots it is made up of, otherwise probably a standard Markneukirchen/Schoenbach production violin, not French.
Edited: May 11, 2017, 5:48 PM · Question where did you buy it? Did you buy it from a respectable violin shop?
For the value though I say it's not worth much. The varnish is in pretty bad quality and the bridge is a bit crooked (maybe even warped and if that's the case you may need to put down a couple of bucks to get a new bridge fitted) Other than that I can't say much more about this violin. It looks like a "factory" made violin from the 1940s. And here's a tip don't go and buy a bunch of violins from different countries it's a waste of money and not really worth the time. Instead since you are a beginner put some money down on a cheaper instrument. One that you'll be happy to bang up, since newbies are pretty clumsy with their violins. Later on once you are a bit more comfortable in holding a violin put down a couple of thousand dollars for a better and don't buy random instruments, go to a violin shop and ask to try out a violin that fits you instead of wasting money on violins that you'll probably won't play.
May 11, 2017, 5:57 PM · Hello Lyndon, thanks for the response regarding the fake label but I have posted a larger photo. It shows it's woven cloth or something woven. https://www.flickr.com/photos/150595751@N02/shares/1X7405
May 11, 2017, 6:15 PM · Let me guess, you bought it on ebay????
May 11, 2017, 6:18 PM · Hello Justin. I did not buy from respectable shop. Based on the label the finish is by M Dehommais and the violin was built by Emile Germain. As I stated I was looking for a nice tone violin. Regardless of what this violin is it does have a very nice tone and response. Thank you for the advice concerning buying violins. It's my hobby, I repair them also. I relied on my cousin who plays but decided I should learn to play so when I completed repairs I could test the violin. My real problem is I am learning how to play from a book. I have just learned to read music and move my fingers to the appropriate spot to get the note but my bow hold and bowing. I am not moving fluidly. Any sections in violinist.com you could direct me to? Again, thank you for your response and advice.
May 11, 2017, 6:22 PM · Hello Lyndon.

Yes and as I stated in earlier response regardless of what it really is it does have a nice tone. I was using a factory knilling for learning but will now use this one. I just that the label was neat since I had not seen one with a weave t it. That's why I opened the thread and to get playing advice.

Edited: May 11, 2017, 6:35 PM · For your bowing I suggest practicing playing long notes on open strings for about 5-10 mins every time you start a practice session. That way you can get your arm used to the way it needs to move for each string and where it needs to be whether it be closer to the fingerboard or bridge. I'll also see if there are any good archived posts that are good advice for this.
May 11, 2017, 6:44 PM · I would assume the violin label is probably a fake, as the construction technique looks German/Czech not French, and besides the original value has been compromised by Mr Aleske's regraduation. If it sounds really good that's what matters, its value mostly has to do with how good it sounds, not the fake label.
May 11, 2017, 6:48 PM · Thank you Justin.
I will incorporate that into my practice. I will check back at a later time for any posts you may suggest. Thank you again and have a good night, Stephen
May 11, 2017, 7:09 PM · If you want to get a more expert opinion on whether your violin could be French, try posting the pictures on Maestronet.com and Pay attention to Mr Saunders, Mr Ratcliff, and Blank Face's opinions, and pretty much ignore almost everyone else.
May 11, 2017, 7:29 PM · Thank you Lyndon for your response.
I did not think I would get a gem for $229 with shipping, just hoping to get what I wanted, a very nice tone. I will do as you suggest and will post to your suggested site. Thank you again for your input and have a good night, Stephen
May 11, 2017, 8:37 PM · you're welcome
May 11, 2017, 8:43 PM · If I may make a suggestion, instead of investing on a whole lot of violins, use that money for lessons with a good teacher. Self-teaching is awesome and all, but it will never be as good as having a good teacher specially at the beginning of learning where they can give you a good foundation and keep you from developing bad habits.
May 12, 2017, 4:56 AM · Good morning Fox. That is how I started in beginning of March but the teachers in my area did not have openings until July/August. As soon as one can get me in I will be going that route. I will just have a little head start concerning reading the music and finding the notes. Thank you for the advice. Have a god day, Stephen



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